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Post by JMVCajuns on Aug 29, 2020 19:37:05 GMT 14
I'm not exactly excited about what was written on some of their signs. I don't think the Lafayette Police department is excited that these kids are showing this type of leadership either. Did all of these march in unity or were some of them force to unify? I don’t think that the way we interpret and contextualize their experience really matters or changes the intention. I know that they did it the “right” way; peacefully and with dignity. The most American thing you can do is speak up for your cause. I fought for that right, and I support them 100%. Nobody was hurt today so Im good with there peaceful march. The only thing that could have been done better is for them to stay off the actual road. |
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Post by JMVCajuns on Aug 29, 2020 19:40:01 GMT 14
Final straw, my RCAF donations are done. I am #189 according to the RCAF and they won’t see another penny. I have spent 28 years in Law Enforcement and this is a slap on the face to all of us who wear the badge. These officers will be cleared as it was a justified shooting. You see the guy they shot should not be a hero to anyone, he chose to arm himself and threaten people with a big knife. Every option available to the officers was used with negative results. The law clearly states that lethal force can be used to stop a threat to the officers and to defend the public. That is what they did. This is not a black and white issue, it’s an issue of right and wrong, This guy made a bad decision and paid for it with his life. In this butt backwards world of coddling and participation trophy’s, people have lost sight of right and wrong, everyone is a victim. Well the latest victim is UL athletics, they made a wrong decision and it’s going to cost them. PS, one if the officers involved is black. I’m done. You are going to withdraw your donations for a peacful march that was mostly 18 to 23 year old kids? Thank you sir for your service and commitment to UL athletics but that a bad way to look at it from a mature adult standpoint. There are many at UL and in the RCAF that backs the blue and I am one of them. It goes both ways. |
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Post by JMVCajuns on Aug 29, 2020 19:43:33 GMT 14
Would anyones opinion on the "Unity March" change if you were told this was mandatory for the players? My opinion would not change. I doubt that kids were being forced to be there. |
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Post by ManAboutTown on Aug 29, 2020 19:46:34 GMT 14
Final straw, my RCAF donations are done. I am #189 according to the RCAF and they won’t see another penny. I have spent 28 years in Law Enforcement and this is a slap on the face to all of us who wear the badge. These officers will be cleared as it was a justified shooting. You see the guy they shot should not be a hero to anyone, he chose to arm himself and threaten people with a big knife. Every option available to the officers was used with negative results. The law clearly states that lethal force can be used to stop a threat to the officers and to defend the public. That is what they did. This is not a black and white issue, it’s an issue of right and wrong, This guy made a bad decision and paid for it with his life. In this butt backwards world of coddling and participation trophy’s, people have lost sight of right and wrong, everyone is a victim. Well the latest victim is UL athletics, they made a wrong decision and it’s going to cost them. PS, one if the officers involved is black. I’m done. You’ve been a great poster on RP and on Roug. If I sent you my contact info, would you call me? I’d like to speak to you about this. I have no law enforcement history but I did serve in the US military and I have a slightly different take. |
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Post by JMVCajuns on Aug 29, 2020 19:52:19 GMT 14
Final straw, my RCAF donations are done. I am #189 according to the RCAF and they won’t see another penny. I have spent 28 years in Law Enforcement and this is a slap on the face to all of us who wear the badge. These officers will be cleared as it was a justified shooting. You see the guy they shot should not be a hero to anyone, he chose to arm himself and threaten people with a big knife. Every option available to the officers was used with negative results. The law clearly states that lethal force can be used to stop a threat to the officers and to defend the public. That is what they did. This is not a black and white issue, it’s an issue of right and wrong, This guy made a bad decision and paid for it with his life. In this butt backwards world of coddling and participation trophy’s, people have lost sight of right and wrong, everyone is a victim. Well the latest victim is UL athletics, they made a wrong decision and it’s going to cost them. PS, one if the officers involved is black. I’m done. You’ve been a great poster on RP and on Roug. If I sent you my contact info, would you call me? I’d like to speak to you about this. I have no law enforcement history but I did serve in the US military and I have a slightly different take. That you MAT for reaching out to waterboy. If he is properly informed he may understand the reason for the march wasn't because of the shooting in Lafayette. |
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Post by BabbForHeisman on Aug 30, 2020 2:23:18 GMT 14
I support what happened today. I’m proud to be associated with men that protested the way, in my opinion, gets results. If you listened to TJ Wisham’s words today, you understand that this wasn’t a reprimand on anyone, rather a stand for something. How can you possibly be offended by kids demonstrating leadership? Isn’t that what they’re here to learn? Isn’t that the essence of what we want them to leave our university with? Don’t we want to empower these athletes, with confidence, leadership and stability? Create an environment where they understand the value of being good stewards of their money, food Shepards for their families and valuable assets to our community? What the hell are y’all píssed off about? I'm not exactly excited about what was written on some of their signs. I don't think the Lafayette Police department is excited that these kids are showing this type of leadership either. Did all of these march in unity or were some of them force to unify? What signs did you have an issue with? Just curious. |
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Post by clutch0364 on Aug 30, 2020 2:36:31 GMT 14
I knew when I seen the thread title, reading it would be a hoot.
It’s amazing how many snowflakes can’t process that their experience in America is not the same as others.
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Post by iamjaybirdwalker on Aug 30, 2020 2:39:45 GMT 14
Funny you should say that.
When the George Floyd incident happened, I decided I wanted to have some conversations. I had lunch with several different people whose skin is different from mine in order to try and understand their point of view better.
Ragin pagin posters made fun of me and laughed at me.
I think some of us had issues with your demands that we should join you in saying "Black Lives Matter". Clearly the reason to decline your request is more evident now as nightly we watch people with "Black Lives Matter" on their shirts burning black businesses, churches, looting, assaulting people and police, as well as committing murders. All under the umbrella of BLM. It's a not a Civil Rights Movement, it's people invoking the tactics of domestic terrorist in the name of Social Justice. But because these young kids follow the lead of professional athletes and their corporate supporters, they believe they are fighting for justice. No. That wasn't it. It was directly because I suggested perhaps it was time to have some conversations and see things from someone else's point of view. But, now that you mention it, I find it interesting you can't talk about race at all without bringing up the blm organization. Even when supporting what our student athletes did yesterday. It's like "I support you but."
There is no but.
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Post by MelRock on Aug 30, 2020 5:17:52 GMT 14
I'm not exactly excited about what was written on some of their signs. I don't think the Lafayette Police department is excited that these kids are showing this type of leadership either. Did all of these march in unity or were some of them force to unify?Do you know something or are you just throwing out there to see if it will stick? You have now mentioned it several times. Please enlighten us. |
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Post by CajunT on Aug 30, 2020 5:30:02 GMT 14
I think some of us had issues with your demands that we should join you in saying "Black Lives Matter". Clearly the reason to decline your request is more evident now as nightly we watch people with "Black Lives Matter" on their shirts burning black businesses, churches, looting, assaulting people and police, as well as committing murders. All under the umbrella of BLM. It's a not a Civil Rights Movement, it's people invoking the tactics of domestic terrorist in the name of Social Justice. But because these young kids follow the lead of professional athletes and their corporate supporters, they believe they are fighting for justice. No. That wasn't it. It was directly because I suggested perhaps it was time to have some conversations and see things from someone else's point of view. But, now that you mention it, I find it interesting you can't talk about race at all without bringing up the blm organization. Even when supporting what our student athletes did yesterday. It's like "I support you but."
There is no but.
You would find it interesting, considering you were all in on the BLM movement from the very beginning. Of course I bring up a domestic terrorist organization that is burning, looting and murdering people while others like yourself keep trying to legitimize their actions. We've had almost five months of their actions played out in our living rooms nightly. So yes, you are damn right I have a problem with anyone including our athletes wearing the UL brands and also posing with Black Lives Matter shirts. The same shirts I see people wearing committing crimes nightly. You are right, there is no butts especially when it comes to BLM. You support them, you own their actions! |
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Post by iamjaybirdwalker on Aug 30, 2020 5:48:18 GMT 14
No. That wasn't it. It was directly because I suggested perhaps it was time to have some conversations and see things from someone else's point of view. But, now that you mention it, I find it interesting you can't talk about race at all without bringing up the blm organization. Even when supporting what our student athletes did yesterday. It's like "I support you but."
There is no but.
You would find it interesting, considering you were all in on the BLM movement from the very beginning. Of course I bring up a domestic terrorist organization that is burning, looting and murdering people while others like yourself keep trying to legitimize their actions. We've had almost five months of their actions played out in our living rooms nightly. So yes, you are damn right I have a problem with anyone including our athletes wearing the UL brands and also posing with Black Lives Matter shirts. The same shirts I see people wearing committing crimes nightly. You are right, there is no butts especially when it comes to BLM. You support them, you own their actions! You know, BJ, you always think you're the smartest guy in the room. But sometimes you either conveniently forget the truth or you twist it to fill your narrative.
I said from the time I knew there was a difference between saying Black Lives Matter and the movement itself that I did not support the movement. I challenged you to tell me that Black Lives Matter. You danced around it and then said yes but.....You can't make a single post on this topic without trying to fan flames of hate.
All lives matter will be a lie until black lives matter. Now you go ahead and fire back. I'm done responding to you.
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Post by Airwick on Aug 30, 2020 7:04:57 GMT 14
Someone needs to give this current staff and team the playbook that Hudspeth used, so they can all see how that movie ended. I know the coaches are in a no-win situation and that has to be tough: appease your fan base and lose connection with the players. Or join the players side and lose connection with majority of fan base. But the players have a lot to lose as well if donations are cut.
Right or wrong, this is borderline mixing politics with sports, and it won’t end well considering the region they chose to further their coaching & playing careers.
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Post by BabbForHeisman on Aug 30, 2020 7:09:43 GMT 14
Someone needs to give this current staff and team the playbook that Hudspeth used, so they can all see how that movie ended. I know the coaches are in a no-win situation and that has to be tough: appease your fan base and lose connection with the players. Or join the players side and lose connection with majority of fan base. But the players have a lot to lose as well if donations are cut. Right or wrong, this is borderline mixing politics with sports, and it won’t end well considering the region they chose to further their coaching & playing careers. I don’t see why people think there are “sides” on a unity march. I mean, we should all think police brutality is wrong. And we should all think that all people should be treated fairly. Inserting more than that into this argument doesn’t make it any different. |
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Post by Airwick on Aug 30, 2020 7:15:19 GMT 14
Someone needs to give this current staff and team the playbook that Hudspeth used, so they can all see how that movie ended. I know the coaches are in a no-win situation and that has to be tough: appease your fan base and lose connection with the players. Or join the players side and lose connection with majority of fan base. But the players have a lot to lose as well if donations are cut. Right or wrong, this is borderline mixing politics with sports, and it won’t end well considering the region they chose to further their coaching & playing careers. I don’t see why people think there are “sides” on a unity march. I mean, we should all think police brutality is wrong. And we should all think that all people should be treated fairly. Inserting more than that into this argument doesn’t make it any different. I agree, but we’re talking about the general public’s perception here. |
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Post by BabbForHeisman on Aug 30, 2020 7:19:43 GMT 14
I don’t see why people think there are “sides” on a unity march. I mean, we should all think police brutality is wrong. And we should all think that all people should be treated fairly. Inserting more than that into this argument doesn’t make it any different. I agree, but we’re talking about the general public’s perception here. I’m 100% behind a coaching staff and group of players that stand up for something good. That is a long way away from stuff that happened under Hudspeth. This is just my opinion, but...anyone who has a problem with what happened yesterday can stay home and keep their money, and I don’t care in the slightest. |
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