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Post by BabbForHeisman on Jul 18, 2020 10:52:18 GMT 14
But there is no systemic racism in this country. I’m sure the rest of your post was fantastic but I can’t get over the fact that you typed that sentence.
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Post by LocalYokel on Jul 18, 2020 11:02:12 GMT 14
But there is no systemic racism in this country. I’m sure the rest of your post was fantastic but I can’t get over the fact that you typed that sentence. List examples of systemic racism
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Post by BabbForHeisman on Jul 18, 2020 11:04:38 GMT 14
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Post by cajun4life on Jul 18, 2020 11:50:51 GMT 14
Is it systemic racism when one particular ethnic group has drifted away from the 2 parent household? White, Asian, Indian and Hispanic are all ethnic groups that are predominantly headed by a strong patriarchy. In fact, I’d argue there is no such thing as systemic racism. But the real culprit in the disparity amongst all ethnicities is socio-economic stature. Meaning that 2 parent households are 70% more likely to have children that are not arrested and are higher educated. It is one major reason that Asian and Indian families are ultra successful within the US. The systematic effort of deconstruction the patriarchal family structure amongst minorities are the doing of the left. They systematic deconstruction of religion is another policy of the left, both of which harm the patriarchal family structure.
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Post by BabbForHeisman on Jul 18, 2020 11:53:43 GMT 14
Is it systemic racism when one particular ethnic group has drifted away from the 2 parent household? White, Asian, Indian and Hispanic are all ethnic groups that are predominantly headed by a strong patriarchy. In fact, I’d argue there is no such thing as systemic racism. But the real culprit in the disparity amongst all ethnicities is socio-economic stature. Meaning that 2 parent households are 70% more likely to have children that are not arrested and are higher educated. It is one major reason that Asian and Indian families are ultra successful within the US. The systematic effort of deconstruction the patriarchal family structure amongst minorities are the doing of the left. They systematic deconstruction of religion is another policy of the left, both of which harm the patriarchal family structure. I don’t think it’s worth it to have a real detailed discussion about it here, but the fact that this generates a debate probably means it’s worth it to...you know...have a class on it or something. 
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Post by diehard1280 on Jul 18, 2020 12:37:18 GMT 14
Is it systemic racism when one particular ethnic group has drifted away from the 2 parent household? White, Asian, Indian and Hispanic are all ethnic groups that are predominantly headed by a strong patriarchy. In fact, I’d argue there is no such thing as systemic racism. But the real culprit in the disparity amongst all ethnicities is socio-economic stature. Meaning that 2 parent households are 70% more likely to have children that are not arrested and are higher educated. It is one major reason that Asian and Indian families are ultra successful within the US. The systematic effort of deconstruction the patriarchal family structure amongst minorities are the doing of the left. They systematic deconstruction of religion is another policy of the left, both of which harm the patriarchal family structure. I don’t think it’s worth it to have a real detailed discussion about it here, but the fact that this generates a debate probably means it’s worth it to...you know...have a class on it or something.  Or how about people read and educate themselves on the topic instead? And I don't mean by reading Facebook memes and posts and looking to the woke mob to do it for you. It is not the job of the educational system. All one has to do is read the BLM website to see what the organization is all about. Black inequality isn't what they're trying to "fix".
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Post by balancedview on Jul 18, 2020 15:01:02 GMT 14
I hear the detractors continue to say this social issue is about Marxist, however they never address the fact that the supporters are trying to make a point that Black people live should matter equally in this country, and things need to change for that to become a reality. If anyone only see's Marxist and cant separate the main point then there is no common ground, and the donor/University separation needs to occur even if money for the University is lost. The entire point is that Black people's lives already matter equally in this country. Is there racism on a personal level? Of course, and we should all do our best to eliminate racism from ourselves. But there is no systemic racism in this country. Every citizen is protected equally under the law. The very definition of systemic is "Embedded within the integral framework of a system." There is no racism embedded within the Constitution and laws of the United States, or within the Constitution and laws of any US State, or among the laws and ordinances of any political subdivision within any US State. In fact, ALL Constitutions, laws and ordinances in the US are subject to explicit declarations prohibiting discrimination on the basis of race, religion or ethnic origin. There is absolutely no inconsistency in saying: I absolutely support equality of opportunity and equal protection under the law for every citizen of the United States; but I do not support Black Lives Matter, as it is an organization which expressly espouses acts of violence and destruction of property, and it holds political views which are diametrically opposed to the Constitution and laws of the United States. That statement is not a repudiation of Black people, nor does it show a lack of concern for minorities. It does show disdain for an organization that has co-opted the noble cause of racial equality. your entire post is why there are such a loud voice trying to be heard. the experiences for the majority of Black America in this country is different than what you posted. whats suppose to be under the law, and what actually happen in real life are two different things.
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Post by CajunT on Jul 18, 2020 18:34:31 GMT 14
Let me make myself clear: people should spend their money however they see fit. If this issue offends you, god bless. Put your money to use in something you stand by. however, why would I believe that someone really cares about this community when they will pull their funds from our community’s university and move those funds to a university in a different community that supports the same ideals you’re supposedly opposed to? I agree, people should spend their money however they see fit. Then great, that should be the end of the story right? Which issue are you talking about? There seems to be this narrative that exist here that somehow the issue begins and ends with how you and a few others define it. I'm sorry, you don't get to define what those issues are for the rest of us. It may be that simplistic to you, but for others it has much broader implications. It seems to me you and others have spent an exorbitant amount of time selling what you believe the issues are rather than listening to others from the minority community like Civil Rights activist Leo Terrell and Robert Woodson have to say on the matter? As black men, I don't think they give a damn about what others may think, both have over 50 years of Civil Rights activism on their resumes. They could care less about slogan's, there are many issues to address in the minority community, policing is only one. They aren't supporting BLM as it's defined on social media, or by the Marxist organization #BLM. So if minorities are speaking out against it, including those involved in Civil Rights and Black Pastors, why shouldn't our benefactors be concerned? And why would I believe that you really care more than someone that has donated millions to academics and athletics over decades, educating and supporting minorities at UL? After all, they have put their money where their mouth is when it comes to supporting this community and the majority of athletes on this campus which happen to be minorities. It seems to me they have been "Supporting Black Lives" long before you learned the phrase.
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Post by zeppelincajun on Jul 18, 2020 19:17:07 GMT 14
Let me make myself clear: people should spend their money however they see fit. If this issue offends you, god bless. Put your money to use in something you stand by. however, why would I believe that someone really cares about this community when they will pull their funds from our community’s university and move those funds to a university in a different community that supports the same ideals you’re supposedly opposed to? I agree, people should spend their money however they see fit. Then great, that should be the end of the story right? Which issue are you talking about? You see there is this narrative that exist here that somehow the issue begins and ends with how you define it. Memo, it doesn't. It may be that simplistic to you, but for others it has much broader implications. Why don't you and others that feel the same way read what long time Civil Rights activist like Leo Terrell and Robert Woodson have to say on the matter? As black men, I don't think they give a damn about what others may think, both have over 50 years of Civil Rights activism on their resumes. They could care less about some slogan that makes a minority of the population using social media feel like they are contributing to something. They aren't supporting BLM as it's defined on social media, or by the Marxist organization #BLM. So if minorities are speaking out against it, including those involved in Civil Rights and Black Pastors, why shouldn't our benefactors be concerned? And why would I believe that you really care more than someone that has donated millions to academics and athletics over decades, educating and supporting minorities at UL? After all, they have put their money where the mouth is when it comes to supporting this community and the majority of athletes on this campus which happen to be minorities. It seems to me they have been "Supporting Black Lives" long before you learned the phrase. You don’t have to believe that. Believe what you want. Me not thinking BLM is the real reason for people wanting to pull support from UL is not contingent on you thinking the same thing. I’m gonna continue to think that someone who pulls their support from UL and gives it to an institution promoting the same messages in a different community is not interested in this community. You have the right to spend how you want. I have the right to think the way you spend is laughable. It’s end of story? Don’t post an entire thread on a new message board about the way people may or may not be spending their money, and I won’t comment on it. You wanna talk about supporting the community and athletes. The athletes have made it pretty damn clear what they think about this. The video from our football team was crystal clear, and I haven’t seen an athlete publicly denounce it yet. I haven’t seen an athlete denounce Savoie’s letter or his attendance at the protest yet. I’m sure there are some, but they are in the minority for sure. Every AD and president in the country is or will be caught between a fanbase and young men and women who want their voice heard as well. The impact is gonna be felt more strongly at UL, however. Why? Because we have an apathetic fanbase who has been looking to jump off the ship for years. Everybody has a reason they won’t support UL. The university has done plenty of things I disagree with (T-Joe included). I haven’t found that reason yet. Not to say that it won’t happen.
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Post by CajunT on Jul 18, 2020 19:36:47 GMT 14
But there is no systemic racism in this country. I’m sure the rest of your post was fantastic but I can’t get over the fact that you typed that sentence. I'm almost certain you speak for all Black Americans when you say this. Civil rights attorney Leo Terrell attacks BLM movement for racism, ... " there is simply no such thing as systemic discrimination." Civil rights veteran Bob Woodson, 'Institutional racism' is a ruse, the real history of black America is not being told." Civil rights activist Paris Dennard, I have fought against racial injustice all my entire life, so I can tell you that today's #BLM movement is not about equality. "How do you have systemic racism in cities run entirely by minorities and the politicians they elect?"
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Post by lacajunsfan on Jul 19, 2020 2:02:28 GMT 14
I’m sure the rest of your post was fantastic but I can’t get over the fact that you typed that sentence. I'm almost certain you speak for all Black Americans when you say this. Civil rights attorney Leo Terrell attacks BLM movement for racism, ... " there is simply no such thing as systemic discrimination." Civil rights veteran Bob Woodson, 'Institutional racism' is a ruse, the real history of black America is not being told." Civil rights activist Paris Dennard, I have fought against racial injustice all my entire life, so I can tell you that today's #BLM movement is not about equality. "How do you have systemic racism in cities run entirely by minorities and the politicians they elect?" I sure hope you have more data than just the opinion of 3 random people to back up your theory.
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Post by ManAboutTown on Jul 19, 2020 3:40:30 GMT 14
Thinking this should be the first thread moved into the political folder...
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Post by Bacca on Jul 19, 2020 3:42:13 GMT 14
Thinking this should be the first thread moved into the political folder... It has a sliver of UL athletics. Just a sliver. But it is teetering to full politics.
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Post by lacajunsfan on Jul 19, 2020 3:42:16 GMT 14
Thinking this should be the first thread moved into the political folder... Yep.
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Post by cajunvic on Jul 19, 2020 5:18:14 GMT 14
I'm almost certain you speak for all Black Americans when you say this. Civil rights attorney Leo Terrell attacks BLM movement for racism, ... " there is simply no such thing as systemic discrimination." Civil rights veteran Bob Woodson, 'Institutional racism' is a ruse, the real history of black America is not being told." Civil rights activist Paris Dennard, I have fought against racial injustice all my entire life, so I can tell you that today's #BLM movement is not about equality. "How do you have systemic racism in cities run entirely by minorities and the politicians they elect?" I sure hope you have more data than just the opinion of 3 random people to back up your theory. 50 sources would not be enough for those that have no interest in seeing the theory.
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