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Post by cajunaxe on Feb 20, 2021 6:43:27 GMT 14
I don't think everything the right says is racist, but when the far right takes over the conservative political party and says racist things, they get dubbed racist. This is not the normal republican party and you know it, these aren't even normal people. The normal people are being pushed out rapidly and being replaced by people that only run on "i hate _____" "or "I'll vote NO against______" or "I love Trump". Thats not ideas. We need ideas not political opinions. Everyone acts like Trump did so much when all he did was shred paper. He didnt create any policies or build any infrastructure except replacing some old walls in texas. Any one can shred paper, creating is what takes talent. When only those people are elected, and they get total power as in Trumps first 2 years, they can't even do what they preached about doing for a decade because they have no ideas. Thats incompetence that gets exposed because they have no idea what they're doing, governing is more than going on tv and calling people names and making headlines. Texas is a perfect example of this incompetence. So, your first statement here is what I’m talking about. How has the far right taken over the party? Outside of a few “outspoken” Republican officials, a lot of them are fairly level headed who get lumped in by the media and such as “extremists.” That’s like saying that the Democratic Party is run by AOC or “the squad” which we both know is not true. They’re just loud. You also mention name calling. We have been manufactured to hear things like “white supremacist,” “bigot,” and “racist” as if they’re household names to where their meanings have been almost watered down due to being overused whenever there’s a disagreement. And yes, there’s issues that need to be fixed when it comes to these terms. But one can’t deny that there’s some pandering involved either which is wrong (Pelosi, Schumer kneeling in the Capitol over the Summer for a photo op). While it’s definitely not ok to hate, it’s also not ok to take the same group of people and manipulate them. The issue is that you say these things about Trump, yet Biden has been an elected official for almost 50 years. The man epitomizes Washington elitist bureaucracy. And you’re seeing exactly what you’re saying about Republicans being done the same way by the DNC machine. Run on a platform of forgiving all student debt? Nope, not gonna do that anymore. $15 national minimum wage? Nope, dead on arrival. Have a COVID plan? Nope, continue Operation Warp Speed. And the promises that have been made have been through a record number of EO’s that even the people that voted for the guy are now mad about. And look, I honestly don’t dislike Biden. I disagree with his politics, but I guess that’s the difference. And you actually have some valid points about Republicans. To me, they haven’t been running on the fiscal issues that I align with as much as they should. But all politicians have talking points to get elected. And to demonize one side while totally turning a blind eye to the other is a little unfair. The Republicans bare responsibility for a number of concerns today. So they get no pass from me when it comes to correcting the course we have been on now for four decades. I don't need to dislike Biden, to dislike his policies and his documented betrayal of his country over the past 47 years. I do disagree that the Democrat Party is not run by the leftist wing, which is pretty much the center of the party today. You can't look at Biden's Executive orders and say they are main stream America, so I don't agree with your assessment on what is the Democrat Party today. They are committed Socialist. |
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Post by SuperCajunLFG on Feb 20, 2021 6:48:19 GMT 14
I don't think everything the right says is racist, but when the far right takes over the conservative political party and says racist things, they get dubbed racist. This is not the normal republican party and you know it, these aren't even normal people. The normal people are being pushed out rapidly and being replaced by people that only run on "i hate _____" "or "I'll vote NO against______" or "I love Trump". Thats not ideas. We need ideas not political opinions. Everyone acts like Trump did so much when all he did was shred paper. He didnt create any policies or build any infrastructure except replacing some old walls in texas. Any one can shred paper, creating is what takes talent. When only those people are elected, and they get total power as in Trumps first 2 years, they can't even do what they preached about doing for a decade because they have no ideas. Thats incompetence that gets exposed because they have no idea what they're doing, governing is more than going on tv and calling people names and making headlines. Texas is a perfect example of this incompetence. So, your first statement here is what I’m talking about. How has the far right taken over the party? Outside of a few “outspoken” Republican officials, a lot of them are fairly level headed who get lumped in by the media and such as “extremists.” That’s like saying that the Democratic Party is run by AOC or “the squad” which we both know is not true. They’re just loud. You also mention name calling. We have been manufactured to hear things like “white supremacist,” “bigot,” and “racist” as if they’re household names to where their meanings have been almost watered down due to being overused whenever there’s a disagreement. And yes, there’s issues that need to be fixed when it comes to these terms. But one can’t deny that there’s some pandering involved either which is wrong (Pelosi, Schumer kneeling in the Capitol over the Summer for a photo op). While it’s definitely not ok to hate, it’s also not ok to take the same group of people and manipulate them. The issue is that you say these things about Trump, yet Biden has been an elected official for almost 50 years. The man epitomizes Washington elitist bureaucracy. And you’re seeing exactly what you’re saying about Republicans being done the same way by the DNC machine. Run on a platform of forgiving all student debt? Nope, not gonna do that anymore. $15 national minimum wage? Nope, dead on arrival. Have a COVID plan? Nope, continue Operation Warp Speed. And the promises that have been made have been through a record number of EO’s that even the people that voted for the guy are now mad about. And look, I honestly don’t dislike Biden. I disagree with his politics, but I guess that’s the difference. And you actually have some valid points about Republicans. To me, they haven’t been running on the fiscal issues that I align with as much as they should. But all politicians have talking points to get elected. And to demonize one side while totally turning a blind eye to the other is a little unfair. It just seems to me Trump made extreme politics the "norm" and anything less is considered "left" of "Rino". And those people are being censured who speak up, thats far right to me. And I apologize if i'm seeing things differently but when these people are actually causing real changes in the party and censuring whoever doesn't agree, it seems like a take over. Politics should welcome different opinions, but now if a republican doesn't fall perfectly in line they're run out of town. I also have to say that even the extreme left hasn't called to over throw democracy and act on it. And attempt to destroy our faith in voting. That's just another level of extreme I don't believe the left has come close to. And I don't consider my self left and don't agree with Bernie/AOC the Squuuaaddd,. I just think Biden is very "middle" and could be a republican governor in many states. I don't think he can be painted as far left like many are trying to do. And all the things you just stated as being part of Bidens agenda, most aren't. Yes maybe far left ideas, but Biden has repeatedly stated he wouldn't pursue them. |
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Post by SuperCajunLFG on Feb 20, 2021 6:49:24 GMT 14
No, no no. He only wanted people that agreed with his beliefs to succeed. He attempted to destroy peoples lives that didnt agree with him or his ideas. Even people that that weren't in any way involved in politics. Thats hateful, not American. Oh, so what he did was fight the left at their own game, much like Trump. Sorry, you and the left don't get to describe what is hateful and Un-American to us. You are Socialist, and you use hate daily in your propaganda trying to redefine what is America. Dude, Ive been trying my best to hold back with you, but your'e a moron. I'm a socialist?! Wtf's wrong with you. |
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Post by cajunaxe on Feb 20, 2021 7:00:07 GMT 14
Oh, so what he did was fight the left at their own game, much like Trump. Sorry, you and the left don't get to describe what is hateful and Un-American to us. You are Socialist, and you use hate daily in your propaganda trying to redefine what is America. Dude, Ive been trying my best to hold back with you, but your'e a moron. I'm a socialist?! Wtf's wrong with you. Oh, you are a moderate and have been holding back? My bad. |
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Post by RedTails on Feb 20, 2021 7:15:36 GMT 14
I don't think everything the right says is racist, but when the far right takes over the conservative political party and says racist things, they get dubbed racist. This is not the normal republican party and you know it, these aren't even normal people. The normal people are being pushed out rapidly and being replaced by people that only run on "i hate _____" "or "I'll vote NO against______" or "I love Trump". Thats not ideas. We need ideas not political opinions. Everyone acts like Trump did so much when all he did was shred paper. He didnt create any policies or build any infrastructure except replacing some old walls in texas. Any one can shred paper, creating is what takes talent. When only those people are elected, and they get total power as in Trumps first 2 years, they can't even do what they preached about doing for a decade because they have no ideas. Thats incompetence that gets exposed because they have no idea what they're doing, governing is more than going on tv and calling people names and making headlines. Texas is a perfect example of this incompetence. So, your first statement here is what I’m talking about. How has the far right taken over the party? Outside of a few “outspoken” Republican officials, a lot of them are fairly level headed who get lumped in by the media and such as “extremists.” That’s like saying that the Democratic Party is run by AOC or “the squad” which we both know is not true. They’re just loud. You also mention name calling. We have been manufactured to hear things like “white supremacist,” “bigot,” and “racist” as if they’re household names to where their meanings have been almost watered down due to being overused whenever there’s a disagreement. And yes, there’s issues that need to be fixed when it comes to these terms. But one can’t deny that there’s some pandering involved either which is wrong (Pelosi, Schumer kneeling in the Capitol over the Summer for a photo op). While it’s definitely not ok to hate, it’s also not ok to take the same group of people and manipulate them. The issue is that you say these things about Trump, yet Biden has been an elected official for almost 50 years. The man epitomizes Washington elitist bureaucracy. And you’re seeing exactly what you’re saying about Republicans being done the same way by the DNC machine. Run on a platform of forgiving all student debt? Nope, not gonna do that anymore. $15 national minimum wage? Nope, dead on arrival. Have a COVID plan? Nope, continue Operation Warp Speed. And the promises that have been made have been through a record number of EO’s that even the people that voted for the guy are now mad about. And look, I honestly don’t dislike Biden. I disagree with his politics, but I guess that’s the difference. And you actually have some valid points about Republicans. To me, they haven’t been running on the fiscal issues that I align with as much as they should. But all politicians have talking points to get elected. And to demonize one side while totally turning a blind eye to the other is a little unfair. His campaign promise/platform was not forgiving all student debt, he promised he'd be an advocate to forgive $10,000 in student loan debt: source: ForbesIn his recent town hall, he said he still supports $15 minimum wage but that it needs to be a gradual climb: source: Joe Biden CNN Townhall (28:30 minute mark)
He does have a COVID plan, and it is constantly evolving. He recently called to set up 100 mass vaccination sites across the country, deployed active national guard to assist, etc. If I recall, distribution is the biggest criticism against Operation Warp Speed. So these are steps he's taking to address it. You're an intelligent and reasonable poster, I truly hope you don't believe Biden doesn't have a COVID plan. If anything, one of his bullet points is: listen to scientists. That's as important as anything IMO. |
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Post by BabbForHeisman on Feb 20, 2021 7:16:56 GMT 14
If the right were really the racists then why are they against abortion? Black women have 40% of all abortions but the black community is only 13.5% of the population? Wouldn’t a true racist be pro abortion ? What better way to decrease the minority population than push for them to do it themselves? You will never not be the minority if you kill off your offspring at that rate. This might be the dumbest thing anyone has ever written on this board. For your sake, I hope you borrowed this from someone’s Facebook post and that it didn’t come from your own brain. |
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Post by cajuns36 on Feb 20, 2021 7:20:52 GMT 14
If the right were really the racists then why are they against abortion? Black women have 40% of all abortions but the black community is only 13.5% of the population? Wouldn’t a true racist be pro abortion ? What better way to decrease the minority population than push for them to do it themselves? You will never not be the minority if you kill off your offspring at that rate. This might be the dumbest thing anyone has ever written on this board. For your sake, I hope you borrowed this from someone’s Facebook post and that it didn’t come from your own brain. Great counter info you provided, so what exactly was Margaret Sangers mission when she founded planned parenthood? Why are so many abortion clinics in minority neighborhoods? www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/23/racism-eugenics-margaret-sanger-deserves-no-honors-column/5480192002/ |
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Post by BabbForHeisman on Feb 20, 2021 7:29:43 GMT 14
This is is classic. Your argument was that right wing opposition to abortion proves that the right wing is not racist. That conclusion has nothing to do with the history of planned parenthood. What website did you get that argument from? I’d actually love to see it. |
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Post by cajuns36 on Feb 20, 2021 7:41:26 GMT 14
This is is classic. Your argument was that right wing opposition to abortion proves that the right wing is not racist. That conclusion has nothing to do with the history of planned parenthood. What website did you get that argument from? I’d actually love to see it. This might come as a total surprise but you don’t need the internet to think. Answer the question? Why do they strategically place abortion clinics in minority neighborhoods? Why are 40% of the abortions committed by a segment of the population that makes up only 13%? That doesn’t make you question what’s going on? You think that’s a coincidence? Why does the left push so hard for it? Why does China joe think our tax dollars should pay for abortion not only here but In other countries? they don’t just push for women’s right to have them, they want to control it and encourage it |
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Post by ULvictory on Feb 20, 2021 7:47:15 GMT 14
So, your first statement here is what I’m talking about. How has the far right taken over the party? Outside of a few “outspoken” Republican officials, a lot of them are fairly level headed who get lumped in by the media and such as “extremists.” That’s like saying that the Democratic Party is run by AOC or “the squad” which we both know is not true. They’re just loud. You also mention name calling. We have been manufactured to hear things like “white supremacist,” “bigot,” and “racist” as if they’re household names to where their meanings have been almost watered down due to being overused whenever there’s a disagreement. And yes, there’s issues that need to be fixed when it comes to these terms. But one can’t deny that there’s some pandering involved either which is wrong (Pelosi, Schumer kneeling in the Capitol over the Summer for a photo op). While it’s definitely not ok to hate, it’s also not ok to take the same group of people and manipulate them. The issue is that you say these things about Trump, yet Biden has been an elected official for almost 50 years. The man epitomizes Washington elitist bureaucracy. And you’re seeing exactly what you’re saying about Republicans being done the same way by the DNC machine. Run on a platform of forgiving all student debt? Nope, not gonna do that anymore. $15 national minimum wage? Nope, dead on arrival. Have a COVID plan? Nope, continue Operation Warp Speed. And the promises that have been made have been through a record number of EO’s that even the people that voted for the guy are now mad about. And look, I honestly don’t dislike Biden. I disagree with his politics, but I guess that’s the difference. And you actually have some valid points about Republicans. To me, they haven’t been running on the fiscal issues that I align with as much as they should. But all politicians have talking points to get elected. And to demonize one side while totally turning a blind eye to the other is a little unfair. It just seems to me Trump made extreme politics the "norm" and anything less is considered "left" of "Rino". And those people are being censured who speak up, thats far right to me. And I apologize if i'm seeing things differently but when these people are actually causing real changes in the party and censuring whoever doesn't agree, it seems like a take over. Politics should welcome different opinions, but now if a republican doesn't fall perfectly in line they're run out of town. I also have to say that even the extreme left hasn't called to over throw democracy and act on it. And attempt to destroy our faith in voting. That's just another level of extreme I don't believe the left has come close to. And I don't consider my self left and don't agree with Bernie/AOC the Squuuaaddd,. I just think Biden is very "middle" and could be a republican governor in many states. I don't think he can be painted as far left like many are trying to do. And all the things you just stated as being part of Bidens agenda, most aren't. Yes maybe far left ideas, but Biden has repeatedly stated he wouldn't pursue them. No need to apologize, but let's be honest here. Most of Trump's "opponents" in the Republican Party include people like Romney and Jeb Bush elitists. If I were a Democrat, I would be salivating at the idea of them being the forefront of the party. I might never lose an election again. And as far as welcoming different opinions and censuring, take a look at Twitter and Facebook. Conservatives are being censured as well. And while it is the free market, it is still dangerous. And the media is lumping the entire conservative movement into this extreme side as a whole. Over 75 million people. There's even groups that have come up with some type of "Conservative Extremist" chart going around Twitter to where even being registered as a Republican gets you "points." That's sick. And let's not forget web sites that expose ordinary people who have donated to Trump. We are talking home addresses, phone numbers, and contacts here. Totally not normal. As far as Biden not pursuing far left ideas, he ran on a lot of them. But that's the thing. We all know he wouldn't pursue them. But if we are going to call Trump out for the same thing, it's fair to say that Biden deserves the same criticism. |
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Post by ULvictory on Feb 20, 2021 7:49:01 GMT 14
So, your first statement here is what I’m talking about. How has the far right taken over the party? Outside of a few “outspoken” Republican officials, a lot of them are fairly level headed who get lumped in by the media and such as “extremists.” That’s like saying that the Democratic Party is run by AOC or “the squad” which we both know is not true. They’re just loud. You also mention name calling. We have been manufactured to hear things like “white supremacist,” “bigot,” and “racist” as if they’re household names to where their meanings have been almost watered down due to being overused whenever there’s a disagreement. And yes, there’s issues that need to be fixed when it comes to these terms. But one can’t deny that there’s some pandering involved either which is wrong (Pelosi, Schumer kneeling in the Capitol over the Summer for a photo op). While it’s definitely not ok to hate, it’s also not ok to take the same group of people and manipulate them. The issue is that you say these things about Trump, yet Biden has been an elected official for almost 50 years. The man epitomizes Washington elitist bureaucracy. And you’re seeing exactly what you’re saying about Republicans being done the same way by the DNC machine. Run on a platform of forgiving all student debt? Nope, not gonna do that anymore. $15 national minimum wage? Nope, dead on arrival. Have a COVID plan? Nope, continue Operation Warp Speed. And the promises that have been made have been through a record number of EO’s that even the people that voted for the guy are now mad about. And look, I honestly don’t dislike Biden. I disagree with his politics, but I guess that’s the difference. And you actually have some valid points about Republicans. To me, they haven’t been running on the fiscal issues that I align with as much as they should. But all politicians have talking points to get elected. And to demonize one side while totally turning a blind eye to the other is a little unfair. His campaign promise/platform was not forgiving all student debt, he promised he'd be an advocate to forgive $10,000 in student loan debt: source: ForbesIn his recent town hall, he said he still supports $15 minimum wage but that it needs to be a gradual climb: source: Joe Biden CNN Townhall (28:30 minute mark)
He does have a COVID plan, and it is constantly evolving. He recently called to set up 100 mass vaccination sites across the country, deployed active national guard to assist, etc. If I recall, distribution is the biggest criticism against Operation Warp Speed. So these are steps he's taking to address it. You're an intelligent and reasonable poster, I truly hope you don't believe Biden doesn't have a COVID plan. If anything, one of his bullet points is: listen to scientists. That's as important as anything IMO. Appreciate the kind words. I have my ideologies but try to at least be cordial. As far as COVID, Biden's plan is about evolving. But that's not a structured plan. "Follow the Science" basically means "here are the numbers; now let's do what we can based on those right now." Fair enough. That's more doing things up to date and winging it. And to be honest with you, that's fine if it works. But again, that's not a plan. And it is no different than what Trump did. |
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Post by BabbForHeisman on Feb 20, 2021 8:43:02 GMT 14
This is is classic. Your argument was that right wing opposition to abortion proves that the right wing is not racist. That conclusion has nothing to do with the history of planned parenthood. What website did you get that argument from? I’d actually love to see it. This might come as a total surprise but you don’t need the internet to think. Answer the question? Why do they strategically place abortion clinics in minority neighborhoods? Why are 40% of the abortions committed by a segment of the population that makes up only 13%? That doesn’t make you question what’s going on? You think that’s a coincidence? Why does the left push so hard for it? Why does China joe think our tax dollars should pay for abortion not only here but In other countries? they don’t just push for women’s right to have them, they want to control it and encourage it I don’t need the internet to think, but I kind of assumed you do with some of this crazy stuff. Need we revisit the 875 conspiracy theories you think are true? All of your questions are good questions, but totally irrelevant. You can’t say that the issues with the founding of planned parenthood is proof that right wing can’t be racist because they are prolife. You don’t seem to want to address that when you respond. |
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Post by cajuns36 on Feb 20, 2021 9:08:29 GMT 14
This might come as a total surprise but you don’t need the internet to think. Answer the question? Why do they strategically place abortion clinics in minority neighborhoods? Why are 40% of the abortions committed by a segment of the population that makes up only 13%? That doesn’t make you question what’s going on? You think that’s a coincidence? Why does the left push so hard for it? Why does China joe think our tax dollars should pay for abortion not only here but In other countries? they don’t just push for women’s right to have them, they want to control it and encourage it I don’t need the internet to think, but I kind of assumed you do with some of this crazy stuff. Need we revisit the 875 conspiracy theories you think are true? All of your questions are good questions, but totally irrelevant. You can’t say that the issues with the founding of planned parenthood is proof that right wing can’t be racist because they are prolife. You don’t seem to want to address that when you respond. There are racist people everywhere, never says there aren’t racist on the right but if everyone who is conservative is racist then none of them would oppose abortion. It’s not at all the possible that “the side” and “the people” that are shoving abortion down people throats and want to fund it just might be the racist ones? Given the disproportionate amount of black mothers having abortions than anyone other ethnicity |
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Post by BabbForHeisman on Feb 20, 2021 10:31:41 GMT 14
There are racist people everywhere, never says there aren’t racist on the right but if everyone who is conservative is racist then none of them would oppose abortion. I’m getting dizzy from the circular logic here. You started by saying that conservatives can’t be racist because they are prolife. That premise is false. I know plenty of racist prolifers. Don’t you? |
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Post by SuperCajunLFG on Feb 20, 2021 11:02:38 GMT 14
There are racist people everywhere, never says there aren’t racist on the right but if everyone who is conservative is racist then none of them would oppose abortion. I’m getting dizzy from the circular logic here. You started by saying that conservatives can’t be racist because they are prolife. That premise is false. I know plenty of racist prolifers. Don’t you? I agree with Babb on not understanding your logic. These are two separate topics. Conservatives are pro-life because of the evangelical christian stronghold to raise campaign funds. The black religious sector of the democratic party is equally anti-abortion. Its about religion, nothing to do with whether they're racist or not |
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